244 – Grading the Curve | Priority One: A Star Trek News Podcast
Greetings, Admirals! You’re listening to EPISODE 244 OF PRIORITY ONE PODCAST, the premier Star Trek Online podcast! This episode was recorded LIVE on Thursday, October 15th, 2015 and made available […]
GavinRuneblade on 2015-11-04
On the dil ship discount, I’ll probably get a couple, randomly. I won’t be getting any significant number of ships though.
I would like to point out, on the Dry Dock, that really, the fact we can benifit from it, is a side benifit. Really, the big thing is that this removes a huge bit of server load. The devs have mentioned repeatedly that the champions databse has some glaring innefficiencies. A big one is the way ships are handled. While we can only access one at a time (two if you count the shuttle) unless we visit a ship selector, the database loads every ship, plus loadouts, gear, experience, etc. EVERY ship, every time your character is active and refreshes the data each time you zone. This is a big part of why we have limited ship slots we can purchase. They would happily take more money from us, but the database was not really built to be used the way they use it, because it was built for Champions which uses it differently. In fact, I believe Gecko (might have been Borticus) mentioned in an earlier P1 interview near the time they gave us 2 free ship slots and increased the amount we can buy, that they found a way to make the database more efficient and that was why they gave the free slots and increased the limit. But that’s also why there is a limit and we can’t buy infinite ship slots. Drydocking, I assume, works the way it does because it gets ships totally out of the borked legacy database and this is why it’s not just “give players more ship slots”.
I totally agree with Kenna that a reclaim feature that checks “does player have card for this ship in the Admiralty system? If yes reclaim the ship for free” would be ideal. But from Cryptic’s side, that would kill all revenue from selling ship slots. Which is why I suspect we’ll never get anything that cool. This dry dock is giving us a bunch more ship slots for free, and improving database performance at the same time (assuming people don’t keep a ton in the selection list). Which I see as a big win for the players, even if it’s not the ideal solution.
GavinRuneblade on 2019-01-30
On the dil ship discount, I’ll probably get a couple, randomly. I won’t be getting any significant number of ships though.
I would like to point out, on the Dry Dock, that really, the fact we can benifit from it, is a side benifit. Really, the big thing is that this removes a huge bit of server load. The devs have mentioned repeatedly that the champions databse has some glaring innefficiencies. A big one is the way ships are handled. While we can only access one at a time (two if you count the shuttle) unless we visit a ship selector, the database loads every ship, plus loadouts, gear, experience, etc. EVERY ship, every time your character is active and refreshes the data each time you zone. This is a big part of why we have limited ship slots we can purchase. They would happily take more money from us, but the database was not really built to be used the way they use it, because it was built for Champions which uses it differently. In fact, I believe Gecko (might have been Borticus) mentioned in an earlier P1 interview near the time they gave us 2 free ship slots and increased the amount we can buy, that they found a way to make the database more efficient and that was why they gave the free slots and increased the limit. But that’s also why there is a limit and we can’t buy infinite ship slots. Drydocking, I assume, works the way it does because it gets ships totally out of the borked legacy database and this is why it’s not just “give players more ship slots”.
I totally agree with Kenna that a reclaim feature that checks “does player have card for this ship in the Admiralty system? If yes reclaim the ship for free” would be ideal. But from Cryptic’s side, that would kill all revenue from selling ship slots. Which is why I suspect we’ll never get anything that cool. This dry dock is giving us a bunch more ship slots for free, and improving database performance at the same time (assuming people don’t keep a ton in the selection list). Which I see as a big win for the players, even if it’s not the ideal solution.
Jonathan Towry on 2015-10-27
Unfortunately I spent all of my dilithium on some fleet projects trying to get a fleet science ship. Once I get some more dilithium I’d love to fly the miranda again, you never forget your first.
seannewboy on 2015-10-27
Didn’t think to add it to chat during the livestream, but Dr Hurt never mentioned Ring worlds about the anomalous system. One idea i had listening to the recording today was trying to use extra large solar sails to send galactic smoke signals so to speak.
Shuttle pvp rocks.
Picking up as many ships as i can, i want to be ready for when i get all of the mission slots open for the admiralty system.
Wonderful show everyone, just a few hours more until the new season.
Jonathan Towry on 2019-01-30
Unfortunately I spent all of my dilithium on some fleet projects trying to get a fleet science ship. Once I get some more dilithium I’d love to fly the miranda again, you never forget your first.
seannewboy on 2019-01-30
Didn’t think to add it to chat during the livestream, but Dr Hurt never mentioned Ring worlds about the anomalous system. One idea i had listening to the recording today was trying to use extra large solar sails to send galactic smoke signals so to speak.
Shuttle pvp rocks.
Picking up as many ships as i can, i want to be ready for when i get all of the mission slots open for the admiralty system.
Wonderful show everyone, just a few hours more until the new season.
The Mad Poet on 2015-10-26
I think I’ve played most of the dilithium-cost ships between my main science character and all of my alts at some point. I don’t know how much different the Tier 4 and Tier 5 ships will be for the new system. If there is a huge difference between them I don’t see the point in loading up my ship slots with lower tier ships, though I suppose if there is some benefit for sending a ‘Lead’ ship with ‘Supporting’ ships it might be worth it. Hard to say. Over the past few years I’ve dismissed most of my lower tier ships with higher level characters so it is unlikely I’ll be buying many. I have some of the Tier 1 and Tier 2 ships unlocked from the C-Store from either purchase or promotion. I’ll probably use them.
Dry docking on the other hand, well, depends on how many ‘Dry Docks’ we get. Sounds great to me. Also if it lets you store your equipped gear on the ship it will be a good way to loosen up some pressure on my near to exploding bank.
Kenna on 2015-10-26
The real advantage to the discount will be stocking up cards for the admiralty system, where lower-tier ships will definitely be useful…sometimes for the quick admiralty missions, but also for the “extra powers” they get! But you’re right…Not sure how many of them I’m going to turn around and keep in dry dock!
The Mad Poet on 2019-01-30
I think I’ve played most of the dilithium-cost ships between my main science character and all of my alts at some point. I don’t know how much different the Tier 4 and Tier 5 ships will be for the new system. If there is a huge difference between them I don’t see the point in loading up my ship slots with lower tier ships, though I suppose if there is some benefit for sending a ‘Lead’ ship with ‘Supporting’ ships it might be worth it. Hard to say. Over the past few years I’ve dismissed most of my lower tier ships with higher level characters so it is unlikely I’ll be buying many. I have some of the Tier 1 and Tier 2 ships unlocked from the C-Store from either purchase or promotion. I’ll probably use them.
Dry docking on the other hand, well, depends on how many ‘Dry Docks’ we get. Sounds great to me. Also if it lets you store your equipped gear on the ship it will be a good way to loosen up some pressure on my near to exploding bank.
Kenna on 2019-01-30
The real advantage to the discount will be stocking up cards for the admiralty system, where lower-tier ships will definitely be useful…sometimes for the quick admiralty missions, but also for the “extra powers” they get! But you’re right…Not sure how many of them I’m going to turn around and keep in dry dock!
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