222 – LohluNUTz | Priority One: A Star Trek News Podcast
Greetings, Admirals! You’re listening to EPISODE 222 OF PRIORITY ONE PODCAST, the premier Star Trek Online podcast! This episode was recorded on Thursday, May 14th, 2015 and made available for […]
GavinRuneblade on 2015-06-05
I have a very different view of the replay. BECAUSE I have alts, I’m going to replay the mission anyway. Getting rewarded for this, is nice. I use a different character each week.
More than that though, I enjoy replaying things and trying it different ways. That’s why I have alts. So I can try all kinds of different things.
I am also not a completionist. If I don’t see a set as worth using, then I have no problem only getting one piece and being done. If I want the full set, then I have no problem doing it a few times on one character.
That said, I think the best mission for this is Surface Tension (the one with Tuvok on the star orbital station) because this one has different options and challenges for replays (fight voth with beams, swarmers or nothing… and hide from the sun or protect Cooper). Very few other missions give you choices like that which is a shame, I’d love more options.
Question 2: I don’t PvP in PvE games. When I PvP I play something where there is no progressive gear or powers and everyone is on an equal footing (MOBA’s or FPS’s or RTS’s).
I find the iconian heal an ok trait, but not best of the best. It is doubly helpful for escorts since they have more damage and fewer engineering/science seats.
The T4 and T5 traits I haven’t unlocked yet. I don’t grind anything so it’ll be another month or two before I get them unlocked.
GavinRuneblade on 2019-01-30
I have a very different view of the replay. BECAUSE I have alts, I’m going to replay the mission anyway. Getting rewarded for this, is nice. I use a different character each week.
More than that though, I enjoy replaying things and trying it different ways. That’s why I have alts. So I can try all kinds of different things.
I am also not a completionist. If I don’t see a set as worth using, then I have no problem only getting one piece and being done. If I want the full set, then I have no problem doing it a few times on one character.
That said, I think the best mission for this is Surface Tension (the one with Tuvok on the star orbital station) because this one has different options and challenges for replays (fight voth with beams, swarmers or nothing… and hide from the sun or protect Cooper). Very few other missions give you choices like that which is a shame, I’d love more options.
Question 2: I don’t PvP in PvE games. When I PvP I play something where there is no progressive gear or powers and everyone is on an equal footing (MOBA’s or FPS’s or RTS’s).
I find the iconian heal an ok trait, but not best of the best. It is doubly helpful for escorts since they have more damage and fewer engineering/science seats.
The T4 and T5 traits I haven’t unlocked yet. I don’t grind anything so it’ll be another month or two before I get them unlocked.
Ariel on 2015-05-27
OMG thank you! I completely agree with having to repeat those missions to get the rewards. I get the reasons WHY but it greatly trivializes the “story” by having to grind it repeatedly for the rewards.
I’m not sure the devs would be ok with associating those rewards with the queues but it would make a lot more sense.
seannewboy on 2015-05-27
Answer to a question in the micro review, it is hated because it is new and the others you mention are old, no other reason.
CQ1)Gee i dont know whats bugging you people:3 runs of dust to dust for kobali space set (only mk xii space set for free), 4 times uneasy alliances for the 3 piece set and gun, 3 times blood of the ancients for set there. Easy peasy, its not like i have 17 alts, o wait i do *double facepalm*.
CQ2) For me pvp is just something i do with fleeties at our social events.
Wonderful episode, love how the new crew is starting to mesh well.
Ariel on 2019-01-30
OMG thank you! I completely agree with having to repeat those missions to get the rewards. I get the reasons WHY but it greatly trivializes the “story” by having to grind it repeatedly for the rewards.
I’m not sure the devs would be ok with associating those rewards with the queues but it would make a lot more sense.
seannewboy on 2019-01-30
Answer to a question in the micro review, it is hated because it is new and the others you mention are old, no other reason.
CQ1)Gee i dont know whats bugging you people:3 runs of dust to dust for kobali space set (only mk xii space set for free), 4 times uneasy alliances for the 3 piece set and gun, 3 times blood of the ancients for set there. Easy peasy, its not like i have 17 alts, o wait i do *double facepalm*.
CQ2) For me pvp is just something i do with fleeties at our social events.
Wonderful episode, love how the new crew is starting to mesh well.
Enahs Dax on 2015-05-26
Well another great episode this week. I really hope Kenna and Kam stick around when Cookie returns. I think the more people hosting the show the more opinions we get.
I have to agree with Kenna with replaying feature episodes. I don’t like running the episodes over and over again. This game use to be fun with having 8-9 alts, now with specialization I cannot stand replaying episodes on alts. All replaying episodes on alts does is take time away from my main character. Cryptic needs to do something about the quality of life of alts. The new rewards program mentioned about event ships is a good step in the right direction, it is not enough. Since the release of Delta Rising alt play has been horrible.
I do PvP on the ground. So I understand the need for game balance. I am also a firm believer in balance through PvP. If the game is balanced in PvP you adjust PvE to perform the same. This will provide entire game balance. While I don’t mind the new tier 4 Iconian Traits I don’t see a reason not to have immunity against it. I would like to see that this and other traits like it only affect the target of the user. This will prevent ensure FAW and other triggers don’t stack. Everyone is aware how easy it is to get a 2.5% to trigger using FAW3.
To build more on game balance take the power Concussive Tachyon Emission (Tier 5 Delta rep), this power is OP. This power is way to strong in PvE and PvP. CTE is a game breaking power that is buffed by most tactical powers and affected by Tactical Initiative. In a well informed team this power could be set off every 10-15 seconds continuously. This power has been used to dominate PvE with five tactical captains and is just as dangerous in PvP. The sad thing is that if it is nerfed most players beside ground PvPers would cry about it. PvPers do not want to nerf things they just want game balance. That is enough of my rant.
I do have a suggestion for the P1 team. With the live stream and Kam’s ability to make videos I would like to see videos on walk through of the hardest level of each queue. While I appreciate the Wizards of STO, not all players do relate to what they do. The only request I would have is not to have more than two of the same class and ship in each video and links to builds used. You could tie this in to you build segments. While not all players want to do insane DPS there are some that want to tank and hold agro to allow DPS build to do there damage. Show off drain and crowd control builds.
Enahs Dax on 2019-01-30
Well another great episode this week. I really hope Kenna and Kam stick around when Cookie returns. I think the more people hosting the show the more opinions we get.
I have to agree with Kenna with replaying feature episodes. I don’t like running the episodes over and over again. This game use to be fun with having 8-9 alts, now with specialization I cannot stand replaying episodes on alts. All replaying episodes on alts does is take time away from my main character. Cryptic needs to do something about the quality of life of alts. The new rewards program mentioned about event ships is a good step in the right direction, it is not enough. Since the release of Delta Rising alt play has been horrible.
I do PvP on the ground. So I understand the need for game balance. I am also a firm believer in balance through PvP. If the game is balanced in PvP you adjust PvE to perform the same. This will provide entire game balance. While I don’t mind the new tier 4 Iconian Traits I don’t see a reason not to have immunity against it. I would like to see that this and other traits like it only affect the target of the user. This will prevent ensure FAW and other triggers don’t stack. Everyone is aware how easy it is to get a 2.5% to trigger using FAW3.
To build more on game balance take the power Concussive Tachyon Emission (Tier 5 Delta rep), this power is OP. This power is way to strong in PvE and PvP. CTE is a game breaking power that is buffed by most tactical powers and affected by Tactical Initiative. In a well informed team this power could be set off every 10-15 seconds continuously. This power has been used to dominate PvE with five tactical captains and is just as dangerous in PvP. The sad thing is that if it is nerfed most players beside ground PvPers would cry about it. PvPers do not want to nerf things they just want game balance. That is enough of my rant.
I do have a suggestion for the P1 team. With the live stream and Kam’s ability to make videos I would like to see videos on walk through of the hardest level of each queue. While I appreciate the Wizards of STO, not all players do relate to what they do. The only request I would have is not to have more than two of the same class and ship in each video and links to builds used. You could tie this in to you build segments. While not all players want to do insane DPS there are some that want to tank and hold agro to allow DPS build to do there damage. Show off drain and crowd control builds.
Eklinaar on 2015-05-26
I really like the idea of getting a specialization point as a reward. I haven’t bothered to grind specialization points, and I play very casually, maybe two hours a week. I gain maybe one specialization point a month. This would significantly increase my acquisition of specialization points. Thumbs up on this change.
Regarding Kenna’s concern about replays, I don’t mind it too much for high quality missions like the featured episodes, but it can get tedious sometimes. One possible solution would be some kind of wrapper mission that’s available once a week or once a day, like the bonus box for queues, except any qualified mission replay completes the wrapper.
Eklinaar on 2019-01-30
I really like the idea of getting a specialization point as a reward. I haven’t bothered to grind specialization points, and I play very casually, maybe two hours a week. I gain maybe one specialization point a month. This would significantly increase my acquisition of specialization points. Thumbs up on this change.
Regarding Kenna’s concern about replays, I don’t mind it too much for high quality missions like the featured episodes, but it can get tedious sometimes. One possible solution would be some kind of wrapper mission that’s available once a week or once a day, like the bonus box for queues, except any qualified mission replay completes the wrapper.
TolaSrrup (Toh'-la Sir-up) or just Tola on 2015-05-26
I’m glad to see a consensus amongst you guys and the other responses so far.
I, too, have been recently fussing over repeating the featured episodes for gear. I love that the developers have upped the ante with the writing, the visuals and, of course, getting the actors to reprise their respective roles. But…
The developers don’t seem to realize that this being a game and that we, as players, are on ‘the never ending quest for epic loot’ and any new shiny that comes out ‘we.must.possess!’
So, like Kenna, I feel like we are “forced” (compelled, coerced, whatever word works for you) to replay these featured episodes to the point of hating them, or, at least very least, no longer getting any joy out of all the hard work and expense the developers went to (particularly when you consider doing it for all your alts).
A single “spiffy” item could rectify this, or a selection of items (ala Delta Flight) to encourage you to replay the mission, but not a specific set to make you feel like you “have to” run it multiple times.
And, to address Kenna’s other suggestion of returning set items as rewards to stfs. I would love that as long as it wasn’t random drops like during the early years. However, I’m sure the devs would argue that, in essence, that’s what the rep system is – in it’s own grindy way.
Maybe a bit of middle ground would be to have events (like we don’t have enough already :P) that offer gear for a very limited time. Instead of marks for running specific stfs, at the introduction of new ones let’s say, maybe we get rewarded something that would help us (a tiny bit) be able to complete these new stfs (be able to go from regular to advanced a little quicker/easier) – instead of us getting sets that makes us masters of those stfs after we hit t5 and don’t need it.
Anyway, just some ramblings.
And I got to say, I am happy that I will no longer hear any disparaging remarks about Deep Space Best Trek (or DS9).
TolaSrrup (Toh'-la Sir-up) or on 2019-01-30
I’m glad to see a consensus amongst you guys and the other responses so far.
I, too, have been recently fussing over repeating the featured episodes for gear. I love that the developers have upped the ante with the writing, the visuals and, of course, getting the actors to reprise their respective roles. But…
The developers don’t seem to realize that this being a game and that we, as players, are on ‘the never ending quest for epic loot’ and any new shiny that comes out ‘we.must.possess!’
So, like Kenna, I feel like we are “forced” (compelled, coerced, whatever word works for you) to replay these featured episodes to the point of hating them, or, at least very least, no longer getting any joy out of all the hard work and expense the developers went to (particularly when you consider doing it for all your alts).
A single “spiffy” item could rectify this, or a selection of items (ala Delta Flight) to encourage you to replay the mission, but not a specific set to make you feel like you “have to” run it multiple times.
And, to address Kenna’s other suggestion of returning set items as rewards to stfs. I would love that as long as it wasn’t random drops like during the early years. However, I’m sure the devs would argue that, in essence, that’s what the rep system is – in it’s own grindy way.
Maybe a bit of middle ground would be to have events (like we don’t have enough already :P) that offer gear for a very limited time. Instead of marks for running specific stfs, at the introduction of new ones let’s say, maybe we get rewarded something that would help us (a tiny bit) be able to complete these new stfs (be able to go from regular to advanced a little quicker/easier) – instead of us getting sets that makes us masters of those stfs after we hit t5 and don’t need it.
Anyway, just some ramblings.
And I got to say, I am happy that I will no longer hear any disparaging remarks about Deep Space Best Trek (or DS9).
Eldarion79 on 2015-05-25
First Question, I agree with Kenna. Doing the same episode numerous times over the next few weeks becomes tedious especially when you have alts. Now with the Delta Recruit, I have been going into the previous featured episodes that give out the goodies and that is more tiresome than leveling 50-60, especially when I am completionist. Perhaps in the future, the Devs can follow Neverwinter’s lead and have the items be a part of an event store during a short event.
Eldarion79 on 2019-01-30
First Question, I agree with Kenna. Doing the same episode numerous times over the next few weeks becomes tedious especially when you have alts. Now with the Delta Recruit, I have been going into the previous featured episodes that give out the goodies and that is more tiresome than leveling 50-60, especially when I am completionist. Perhaps in the future, the Devs can follow Neverwinter’s lead and have the items be a part of an event store during a short event.
rtk142 on 2015-05-25
Hey, first up want to say I’m liking Kenna, she seems like a good addition to the team. Secondly, as far as featured episode rewards, I’m not overly fond of how they’re doing them now no. I miss the old days where you’d have a five episode series over a span of five weeks. At least that way you’re doing different things. I wasn’t crazy about having to do Blood of the Ancients so often to get the set and the upgrade. Don’t get me wrong, I’m looking forward to the spec points. I just wish there was more variety.
QuePan on 2015-05-25
Great Show P1 as usual , missed hearing Elijah’s golden voice.But the Kenna ,Jayce and Kam did a great job.
(community question)as for the FE replays , if kenna thinks its bad with one character doing it 3 times ,think of doing it on alts for Fed,Rom,KDF, even our delta recruits after a while it can get you sour on the mission , rather than enjoying it . there long, Wordy (F spamy) very deeply story missions ,unlike PVE queues grindy Skirmishes. Cyrptic puts so many Special items and sets into the same FE’s if its split up into 3 or more Episodes rather than the same one would be less of a burnout on them .IE. the breen, and dominon story arcs.
thanks again for the show guys . LLAP
Que
rtk142 on 2019-01-30
Hey, first up want to say I’m liking Kenna, she seems like a good addition to the team. Secondly, as far as featured episode rewards, I’m not overly fond of how they’re doing them now no. I miss the old days where you’d have a five episode series over a span of five weeks. At least that way you’re doing different things. I wasn’t crazy about having to do Blood of the Ancients so often to get the set and the upgrade. Don’t get me wrong, I’m looking forward to the spec points. I just wish there was more variety.
QuePan on 2019-01-30
Great Show P1 as usual , missed hearing Elijah’s golden voice.But the Kenna ,Jayce and Kam did a great job.
(community question)as for the FE replays , if kenna thinks its bad with one character doing it 3 times ,think of doing it on alts for Fed,Rom,KDF, even our delta recruits after a while it can get you sour on the mission , rather than enjoying it . there long, Wordy (F spamy) very deeply story missions ,unlike PVE queues grindy Skirmishes. Cyrptic puts so many Special items and sets into the same FE’s if its split up into 3 or more Episodes rather than the same one would be less of a burnout on them .IE. the breen, and dominon story arcs.
thanks again for the show guys . LLAP
Que
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