318 – Discovery First-Look | Priority One: A Roddenberry Star Trek Podcast

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  • alt_example

    Lootcritter May 22, 2017 at 2:36 pm - Reply

    When I came across our inventory of Dark Chocolate Tim Tams – I knew to send a bunch down would be the right thing to do;) My new job is eating up most of my free time – but on this holiday Monday, I had time for STO while listening to the podcast.

    As for the ‘new look’ for the Klingons, I’m thinking they’re not new, but rather old Klingons from the time when they were ruled by the Hurq invaders – before the Klingons killed them. Thier costumes are right out of the STMP sketchbook – so I’m not opposed to the look. As for the universe? Kelvin? Prime? Who cares? It’s Trek dammit.

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    sralbert May 22, 2017 at 8:23 pm - Reply

    would like to affirm that what Kenna says about MMOs is extremely accurate. It is frequently not a safe place for many people. I am not a woman, so I cannot directly understand what women deal with. I am however, a gay man, so I can agree that they are often not a safe space for minorities. I also prefer to usually play by myself in the game. Partially this is because I am an introvert by nature, but I have also dealt with some harassment and homophobic slurs, both in STO and other MMOs. Zone chat is a cesspool. I keep the chat box minimized almost all the time, especially on Earth Space Dock. I frequently keep it minimized even in Queues (as long as I am familiar with the mechanics and expectations of the event) because I have no patience with elitist jerks. I also do not join fleets for many of these same reasons. It does bum me out somewhat because some of the best gear and ships are hidden behind the Fleet wall, but Eh, whatever. I do appreciate that a lot of the content is solo friendly. I do love Star Trek. I like the stories in STO, the art, the environments, the shiny starships. That is what keeps me coming back when it comes right down to it. If there is a single player Star Trek game that has all of this good stuff in it, please let me know!

    MMOs, especially Free to Play titles, have little barriers to entry, and that means almost anyone can play and spew their opinions everywhere. This includes bigots, children, immature adults, and people with mental health issues. Even if we accept that these people are a vocal minority, they are often so vocal that it makes things downright insufferable for everyone else.

    Amongst Star Trek fans, there is a commonly held romantic idea that Trekkies are somehow more enlightened or progressive than your average person. I wish this was somehow true, but it is not automatically the case. Just because someone enjoys a Science Fiction franchise with shiny starships, it does not mean that they are somehow wiser, more educated, or mature by default. This is true in MMOs, fan communities and podcasts. I stopped listening to another similar podcast a while ago due to a host expressing homophobic sentiments. Let’s just say I appreciate the more professional tone that Priority One chooses to use. Pulling out IDIC in an attempt to justify the tolerance of hateful and homophobic opinions is something I find to be to exceptionally problematic. It represents a type of neutrality that is a privilege that can be enjoyed by a group that is in no way affected by the issue in the first place.

    Finally, a comment about that TNG episode that had the J’nai, the genderless species. I think it is generally safe to say that that species was a relatively transparent analogue to how LGBT people are treated in much of society. I prefer it when LGBT issues are represented in Science Fiction with actual LGBT people, rather than alien substitutes ,but yes, it was the 90s, so that is all they probably could have gotten past the FCC, etc. Having Riker’s love interest sent away to “reeducation” is about the same thing as sending gay people to one of those “pray the gay away” camps. Keeping in mind the real world context, I emphatically feel that it is acceptable to criticize this element of the J’nai society. The argument of cultural relativism only goes so far.

    Thank you for your podcast. Keep up the great work.

    • alt_example

      Kenna May 22, 2017 at 8:34 pm - Reply

      Thanks so much for your note! You might want to consider joining the Priority One Armada if you’re still looking for one to join…We’re very friendly! And if you ever have any issues, I happen to know the guy who runs the place 🙂

    • alt_example

      Lucas Anderson May 23, 2017 at 11:21 am - Reply

      Eloquently stated, throughout. You make an excellent point that a certain interpretation of neutrality actually serves to prop up privilege. Hence, IDIC that actually works can’t mean “just let everyone do or say whatever” and leave it at that. With that in mind, what would be a better interpretation of IDIC? Let me take a stab at a first pass: Let everyone do or say whatever and then follow it up with reasonable reflection, criticism, and iteration. What do you think?

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    seannewboy May 23, 2017 at 8:31 am - Reply

    As to oreville, you are all aware of the old show “police squad”? I hope its good, but there are no guarantees (1000 ways to die. . .)even with McFarlane.

    Thanks to both of the guests on the show this week, great show everyone.

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    Eklinaar May 24, 2017 at 3:45 pm - Reply

    I would love to see a whole episode about women in gaming! Kenna is very articulate about these issues and I think it would be fantastic, and there are great podcasters out there who might be able to join the episode. I’ve seen other podcasts approach this by doing a whole episode that is only voiced by women.

    I think Elijah’s memories of MMO chats are through some very rosy glasses. Public chat in most MMOs is a cesspool, and even when they’re not being vulgar, they’re still a straight white boys’ club. This hasn’t changed in the 20+ years that I’ve been gaming online. Online games are not and never have been a safe public space and this needs to change.

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    Lucas Anderson May 25, 2017 at 9:53 am - Reply

    I did not find the preview for The Orville particularly funny. Mildly amusing, for sure, but if that is what they chose to put in the preview, I am not hopeful.
    I admit to totally loving the Discovery trailer, though. Looks like the Kelvin timeline to me, but I can live with that. So, is the commander a human raised on Vulcan, then?


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