Trek or Die – The Orci Frontier

Roberto Orci has the keys to the kingdom. In my opinion this is a pretty hot-button issue that has polarized a fanbase more than Kirk vs. Picard. Everyone has an opinion on the J.J. Abrams Trek-verse, and those opinions tend to be strong. I tend to take a more middle-of-the-road view when I look at these movies. There are some things that bug the shit out of me, there are also some things I liked. The bridge set? Awesome. Karl Urban as Doctor McCoy? Awesome. That main engineering set? Someone should be fed to the targs for that nonsense. I have never had a problem with a Trek reboot. The Myriad Universes books, though it’s been a while since I’ve read them, are some of my favorite Trek stories.

There’s nothing wrong with Alternative Universe stories, as long as it maintains the spirit of Trek. I don’t feel that Mr. Abrams did a very good job with that, but I don’t dislike the man. Quite the opposite actually, I have enjoyed several series created by Bad Robot. I love Fringe. I loved Almost Human (Frak you, FOX). Lost wasn’t bad. I think it would be difficult to go into an IP as rich as Star Trek, not being a fan, and make a good movie. I place the blame for that purely on Paramount. It would be like me trying to write Communist propaganda as a Libertarian.

That’s why I’m willing to give Bob Orci the benefit of the doubt; on a very skeptical, short leash of course. I’m not judging the film before it’s out. I want to see what he can do. I plan to watch it. I’ll probably buy it to support the franchise, hell I bought the last two. I even bought Into Darkness with that crappy little Mary Sue of a villain ship statue. Skepticism doesn’t mean hatred. Skepticism means I’m being cautious. For a man who says he was the Trekker in the group I feel like there was a distinct lack of Trek in the writing. His little tirade in September of 2013 proves that. If you need a refresher you can check out this article from and this article from He disrespected every Trek fan with an opinion that day, and if that doesn’t concern you to some degree I’ve got to ask:

How much valium do you take and where do you get it?

Despite Mr. Orci telling fans with opinions to “f**k off” I’m willing to give him a shot. He was catching a lot of hell (rightfully so) and it was probably said in the heat of the moment. I’ve said things I regret in the heat of the moment before. If you’re human you’ve probably done it at least once in your life. He’s got a metric shit ton of stuff to prove though, but we should all give him that chance at redemption. One day we might need it ourselves.

Good luck, Mr. Orci. To some degree or another I think we’re all cheering for you to succeed. I just hope it’s something interesting, original, and done in the spirit of Trek. You don’t have to rewrite the old stories every time. Surprise us. Er, pleasantly surprise us that is. If you’re truly a Trek fan it shouldn’t be that hard for you.

4 Comments ON " Trek or Die – The Orci Frontier "
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    Berthulf May 19, 2014 at 7:17 am - Reply

    I have to admit, that I quite liked the new films. They’re not the Trek I remember growing up, but then a lot has happened in our world since then. Film audiences want to see something they can believe in, that fits in with their personal ‘reality’ and, Trek aside, Orci and Abrahms gave the films some of that. I appreciated the new Engine Room, the Warp Core, or to give it its correct name, the M/ARA, in the JJ-verse is a lot more realistic than the one from the Motion Picture and is therefore more acceptable to a ‘modern audience’.
    Honestly, I do get what they were trying to do. I was disappointed they went and redid ST:TWoK, but the very people I hear complaining about it are the ones I heard demanding he did Khan in the first place, something JJ early on said he didn’t want to do, yet obviously succumbed to under the immense outcry demanding it.
    All we can hope is that they will now move on and do so in the right direction. Trek can benefit from a bit more Star-Wars style pacing, if that’s what Bad Robot bring to it, but though I too am skeptical we will get anything akin to true Trek from Bad Robot, I do not doubt that I’ll enjoy the fare.
    And don’t forget, we have amazing teams working on fan-made productions, like Renegades and Axanar (which REALLY has me hyped!), not to mention, Cryptic seem to be really hitting their stride with STO. It’s improving and becoming more Trek with every update, and sure they have a way to go yet, but in the last three years I’ve seen the game build from unloved dross to the an amazing, heavily IP game.

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    Ell May 19, 2014 at 8:06 am - Reply

    I’m really disappointed in the decision to allow Orci to continue in the franchise. I’m not a fan of the reboot films to begin with for a lot of reasons, which I could honestly talk about ’til I was blue in the face (ha. ha.) but instead I’m just gonna leave this here:

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    seannewboy May 20, 2014 at 9:33 am - Reply

    Fans arent the problem with the series, they are the series, Orci needs to understand that.

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    MHall85 May 23, 2014 at 6:49 am - Reply

    I seriously do not get all of this disdain towards Orci. For a fan base that prides themselves as “tolerant,” the vocal anti-Abrams group were the ones who wrote the “Star Trek Is Broken”… which is what spurred him to respond like he did. It would not be unlike a fan posting a fan fiction on a forum, but then getting flamed by the other posters (granted, on a much larger scale). How would you feel, in that situation?

    Also, I really don’t agree with this notion that the JJ-verse isn’t “Trek enough.” With the possible exception of the 1979 film, what Trek movie WAS “Trek enough?” Most of them had action as primary focal points… III had a “save my friend” storyline, IV was literally a “save the whales” ad (we don’t know who sent the probe, or why… huh????). The movies will never live up to the TV shows, and I think the criticism towards Abrams & Bad Robot is unfair.

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