Priority One Podcast 258 | Fuller Hopes

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This week we’re Trekking Out the new showrunner who’s just been named for the new Star Trek series, and getting William Shatner’s thoughts about an aging Captain Kirk, before bringing you up to speed on the latest con news. In Star Trek Online news, Mark is giving us the lowdown on the brand new Tier 6 flagships that have just been announced. Later, On Screen, Cookie and Elijah are playing “Hide and Q”. And finally, our graphic artist Henry is here with another fan art review.

As usual, before we wrap up the show, we’ll open hailing frequencies for your incoming messages.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

This week’s Community Question:

  • What Star Trek character would you like to see come back in the new series as a cameo?
  • Have you picked up one of the new Tier 6 flagships in Star Trek Online, and what are your first thoughts?
  • If you had the power of Q, what would you do with it?
  • How different would “Hide and Q” have been if Deanna was involved — do you think she would have influenced Riker any differently? What gift would Q have given her?

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23 Comments ON " Priority One Podcast 258 | Fuller Hopes "
  • alt_example

    Jason February 15, 2016 at 6:56 am - Reply

    You know I really liked this podcast until it started to be politicized. White privilege? really? Way to piss off your subscribers there. Really sick of this crap.

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      Elijah February 15, 2016 at 7:40 am - Reply

      I think we might have just pissed *you* off. //shrug//

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    SanokSkyRat February 15, 2016 at 7:38 am - Reply

    GUYS PLEASE DONT GIVE THE DEVS IDEAS on OMEGA!

    AS AN AUSTRALIAN MY NET SUCKS! AND IT SOMETIMES CAN NOT GET PASS 1000, and thats if someone doesn’t cancel it out all together!

    As for last week question I wanted to say for me Star Trek gave me hope. I grew up in a very violent house and then violent youth refuge system under the care of the government.

    I showed me that things could be better and it shaped me alot and my out view on life. Were people that i knew comment suicide, or ended up in jail, or other worse things, I had hope and a base to have a normal life.

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    Sean February 16, 2016 at 10:05 am - Reply

    Cookie congratulations on being an ignorant totalitarian.

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      Elijah February 16, 2016 at 10:24 am - Reply

      Congratulations on a shining example of typical internet commenting! //slowclap// How about you take this opportunity to offer an actual (perhaps even… constructive! //gasp//) opinion rather than just throwing around six syllable words?…. Listen, we love engaging with our listeners and we have no problem with a healthy debate and exchange of opinion. Ridiculous comments like this (or the one earlier) won’t be deleted… they’re just going to get a snarky reply from me.

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      John Coleman February 16, 2016 at 8:09 pm - Reply

      “that wasn’t Cookie, it was Kenna” Let’s get That right!

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    seannewboy February 17, 2016 at 4:05 am - Reply

    Wonderful show everyone great job.

    cq1) Captain Archer or Janeway.
    cq2) Got the pack, flying the scims, nice.
    cq3) Not work for a living.
    cq4) Deanna would have been able to cut his s*** right quick.

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    GavinRuneblade February 17, 2016 at 11:22 am - Reply

    Come back for a cameo makes that a tougher question than the usual “be in the new show” or “be in STO”. Personally, I’d love Flint from TOS. Sadly the actor is dead, but his son, Tim Daly is an actor and mostly looks the part. I know Spock said Flint was going to only live one last human life, but anything could happen in Trek. Spock was wrong a few times (Galileo Seven comes to mind). I’d love it if one of the off-screen scientists or inventors or throw-away-names from TNG or DS9 turned out to have been Flint and to have him still be alive. But not be the focus of a whole episode. Have it just be a cameo, or even a red herring from the main point of the episode.

    I don’t have the flagships, I’ll maybe get them during a future ship sale. I am particularly interested in the tactical console and its team buff. I love things that help the whole team.

    The serious answer is that it is impossible to know how any of us would act with Q’s power because it comes with perception and a change in perspective that is impossible to predict. The joke answer is that I’d watch the 4th and 5th seasons of TOS so I could see how the 5-year mission really ended. Which doesn’t mean what it seems to mean. Q is a fictional character in a fictional universe. I’d use his power to get out of the fictional universe into the real universe and make our Trek TV show have more seasons. Then watch them. He always said changing the gravitational constant of the universe was childs play. I’d aim much higher. Break the 4th wall.

    Having Deanna involved would depend on which season’s version of Deanna. The writers (and actors) got much smarter about how to use her as the show went on. Early Deanna would have said some things that were ineffective but supposed to sound insightful. Late Deanna, I agree with seannewboy, she’d have totally called Riker out on his nonsense and in a way that worked.

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    evilnerf February 17, 2016 at 3:40 pm - Reply

    Just wanted to post that I agree 100% with Kenna. A primary minority cast reflecting a more global racial make up would be a fantastic change to the franchise.

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    TylerMaxwell February 17, 2016 at 7:00 pm - Reply

    To comment on the potential cast diversity argument (after this I think I’ll try my hand at walking into minefields)…I find myself agreeing with Tony on the merits of this idea, and not just because Hollywood execs and certain audience demos would likely balk at it. Not only do I think that such a thing won’t happen in the next series, but I wonder if pushing for a non-Caucasian cast is necessarily a central concern.

    May I ask, what would be the ultimate goal in having a non-Caucasian cast? I don’t think I heard a really concrete reason from Kenna for it in the podcast, other than just to have it (though maybe I just forgot). If the goal is to showcase stories with perspectives from different racial viewpoints in the Star Trek universe, then I think that is definitely a worthy goal. Certainly there is a pitiful amount of racial diversity in most Western films and television, to the point where even original non-White roles are recast with White actors purportedly because of wider name recognition and other humdrum reasons, and recent award controversies only highlight the longstanding pervasiveness of these ethnic biases. Even those productions that aren’t only White/sometimes Black cast members tend to utilize Minorities in the same stereotypical roles (Latino drug lords, Muslim terrorists, etc.), or as one-note background characters that are forgotten as quickly as they came. A more diverse principle cast COULD (though I need to emphasize, COULD…really it needs diverse writers who are capable of making stories for those viewpoints) potentially provide different perspectives that are not prevalent in media today, providing more varied stories (something like “Far Beyond the Stars” I suppose), and that WOULD work for Star Trek’s benefit.

    BUT if the goal is solely to ‘tick off those racial diversity boxes’, maybe have some news articles touting that singular aspect of the show and make a big point about it, but with no real effect on the kinds of stories and issues talked about in a new Star Trek series, then I can’t say that that reason is good enough. If the character roles are so bland and cookie-cutter that they could work with any White/Minority/Different-orientation-or-credo actors with no effect whatsoever on how they are written, then any discussion on cast diversity is moot, ’cause then the characters are too unremarkable to even matter.

    Let me posit a situation to you: Suppose you are in charge of a new Star Trek series, maybe the current one or a different one entirely. You’ve set up the cast exactly as proposed, with no Caucasian principle actors whatsoever (maybe a redshirt every now and then). Out of the blue, a universally celebrated White actor, say, a Patrick Stewart or Meryl Streep-type person, expresses interest in starring in your show. There is NO doubt in anyone’s mind that having that person on the show would bring a TON of new audience interest, and that they would take whatever the writers threw at them and deliver masterful performances that raised the bar for the show in ways that couldn’t have been achieved otherwise. BUT, the consequence of bring them on is that you’d have to replace one of your lead actors; ’cause let’s face it, a Stewart-type isn’t signing up just to be the helm officer you see for 5 minutes every episode. Possibly/possibly not the captain, but certainly at least the First Officer or Bones/Data/Dax-esque lead would be replaced by this new person. Would you do it? Would you concede your all non-White cast concept if it meant gaining a really great-quality actor? I’d definitely do it, and I’d imagine that a lot of other people in this position would too.

    Ultimately if you’re gonna push for a more diverse (let alone a non-White) cast, you better have a DAMN good reason. Personally I think those diversity boxes are secondary concerns to the characters and the stories told in a new Star Trek series. I didn’t enjoy each of the Star Trek series just because they ticked off those racial diversity boxes, but because the stories were engaging and the characters always made me want to see and learn more about them, regardless of race or gender or whatever characteristic. You could have the most ethnically, socially diverse and inclusive cast in the history of media that ticks the boxes for every demographic out there, and get accolades from every advocacy group imaginable…but if the characters are flat and the stories are bland and unoriginal, no one’s gonna care in the end.

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      Kenna February 18, 2016 at 5:54 am - Reply

      Thank you for this well-thought out comment! This is the kind of discussion I like to get into.

      My ultimate goal in having a non-Caucasian cast would be to promote inclusion in the TV and film industry. I think that having different cultural viewpoints in the cast (and crew!) will benefit Star Trek, benefit the industry, and won’t hurt the franchise.

      Having an entirely non-white crew would be a bold move, for sure, but I think if any franchise *ever* could do it, it’s Star Trek, and it would make me proud if that’s what they chose.

      I would like to make a point about big-name actors: that’s a difficult element to consider. I agree that a big-name actor would be a huge draw. But I would also point out that due to the status quo, big-name minority actors are drastically underrepresented, and I will fight anyone who says that’s based on merit 🙂

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        Chris L February 18, 2016 at 10:00 am - Reply

        It would be a shame, though, to exclude potential castings and actors based purely on their race. That doesn’t seem very progressive to me. Or in-keeping with the values of diversity and cooperation that star trek seems to promote.
        (I am playing devils advocate a little here, i know that isn’t necessarily what you are saying but but throwing terms like white privilege around carelessly can be quite inflammatory!) I hope when casting for the show race shouldn’t matter AT ALL.

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          zmacgirthy February 18, 2016 at 12:59 pm - Reply

          I can see that, although I want to point out that excluding potential actors based on ethnicity and gender is common place, it just depends on what the script calls for. “This character is a hard boiled 40’s detective, we need a Stacey Keach type guy.” Those folks will likely be looking for a middle aged white guy, and not interested in seeing many minority actors, or women. I think that because the excluded category in this discussion would be white people, it makes it seem like what it is, and since we are usually included in all considerations by default, it is a new and uncomfortable feeling. I say “we” because I’m white as #^@%. 😉

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        Melia April 19, 2016 at 8:07 am - Reply

        Stands back from the keyboard in amzetmane! Thanks!

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    David S February 17, 2016 at 7:10 pm - Reply

    Given the negative comments I’m seeing on this post, and probably elsewhere on Facebook and in the forums, I wanted to voice my continued support of Kenna and the entire crew of Priority One.

    While the statement about casting ideas for the new series, taken out of context, could be taken negatively it is important to remember that there was context to it. Context which, at least to my understanding, was more about the power Star Trek has and the statement it could make with a non-white cast, or at least a non-white crew. Given that the main cast would be at most 7 people, with the various ethnicities on Earth and species in the Federation and Starfleet, it would be entirely possible that the bridge crew of the next Star Trek series would not have any white humans on it. Most importantly, that is perfectly acceptable. Not every ethnicity needs to be represented, because ethnicity doesn’t matter. People, in a beyond human-only sense, matter! I can identify with the characters whether they are Human, Klingon, or Android. It’s about the experiences conscious beings have that I’ll relate to, not the pigmentation of the outer most later of tissue.

    Sigh, now that THAT is out of the way, my response to a couple of the community questions:

    (1) What Star Trek character would you like to see come back in the new series as a cameo?

    Given that I am still convinced that the new series will be set in the Abramsverse, probably sometime after movies, the only characters that would make sense to me would be T’Pol, Shran, or Phlox. Somehow I think Phlox would make the most sense, but it would be great to see Shran again.

    (3) If you had the power of Q, what would you do with it?

    If I had the power of Q, I would leave Earth behind and venture out into the final frontier. Given those powers and abilities it would be too tempting to try an “improve” things here on Earth, and given that I would no longer be human I do not feel as if I would have to right to interfere in human affairs.

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    Oberon Zero February 17, 2016 at 10:18 pm - Reply

    CQ1 – Janeway or La Forge.

    CQ2 – This is the bundle I’ve been waiting for. With 6 characters evenly divided among faction and career, it made sense to use my saved Zen and convert enough Dilithium to ge the 9-ship pack. The Fed and Rom ships are beautiful, and the KDF ships are fearless in their utility (like Deadpool hybridized with a targ).

    CQ3 – With the power of Q, I’d probably start with the best of intentions and wind up screwing up everything. Omnipotence without Omniscience or wisdom isn’t worth the trouble.

    CQ4 – With a Season 1 Deanna, She might be insightful or insipid depending on the writing. I have a feeling that her words would move Riker further faster due to their past history.

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    smallyoda February 18, 2016 at 9:15 am - Reply

    I think it would be interesting if the pilot episode of the new series showed the commissioning of the new starship or station and the one giving the speech at the ceremony was admiral Picard. I think it would be great to have a diverse cast and crew for the new series because it could help bring us more great stories like the ones from TNG and TOS.

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    Billy February 20, 2016 at 7:24 am - Reply

    Turned it off when the girl was making ignorant statements about minorities. There have been and are a host of shows that are almost entirely non-white. Secondly, if you are making casting decisions based on race, then you’re not being “arbitrary”. Thirdly, “white” is the minority in the world at large, go check your numbers.

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    thegdthadman February 20, 2016 at 9:04 pm - Reply

    Came here to support Kenna’s statements about the possibilities of a PoC cast for a new Trek series. Besides the fact that I too would love to see it, it would be a net gain for Star Trek and its viewers. Infinite Diversity starts to get disappointingly stale when there is a lingering expectation that white faces must appear. Not to mention the assertion that a show won’t sell if there are no white actors cast in main roles is plain and simple white supremacy, which there should be no place for in Trek.

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    Eklinaar February 22, 2016 at 9:28 am - Reply

    I’m really disappointed in Tony’s apologetics for white privilege in Hollywood. Have you forgotten the cast of TOS? Star Trek has definitely made blatant political statements. When the original series aired, having Russian, Japanese, and Swahili-speaking African officers on the bridge was a blatant political statement. These were deliberate casting choices by Roddenberry. The cultural impact of this was tremendous. See Whoopi Goldberg’s statements on how Uhura affected her as a child. If anything, Star Trek has gotten less political since the original series, and a return to those bold statements for equality and diversity is exactly what Star Trek should do. Showing us how our world could be better if we learned to overcome hate, prejudice, and ignorance (as some commenters on this episode have displayed) used to be a core part of the spirit of Trek and it should be revived. Challenging Hollywood’s white privilege through casting choices would be a great opening statement for the progressivism that belongs at the heart of Trek.

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    Scott February 23, 2016 at 10:09 am - Reply

    I love the show and listen every week, but I really objected to Kenna’s idea that the new Star Trek show should have an all minority cast.

    Star Trek is about inclusion, not exclusion. We want the best possible show and the greatest legacy would be a show that ran seven or more seasons and we watch it on reruns.

    I expect and would be disappointed if the new show didn’t have minority characters, but to suggest that minority characters are better than white characters is discriminatory and racist. An all minority cast isn’t a good idea or cool. It is inherently discriminatory against white actors.

    There have been many great outstanding minority actors on Star Trek, but I want the best actors available regardless of their skin tone.

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    Apulse March 3, 2016 at 2:25 pm - Reply

    Star Trek should never be focused on the color of your skin or your sexuality, people don’t care about it in the 24th century.

    So keep focus on it don’t become Star Trek, it becomes another future-present 🙂

    Keep up the good work!


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